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    Friday was our annual IEP meeting. I am happy that ds is doing well in school and that he says that he enjoys school, so I have to keep thinking of things in perspective. Anyhow this is what happened at the meeting: The meeting was supposed to start at 1:30 PM, but since it took awhile to find an empty room to meet, the meeting didn't start until 1:50 PM. DS's two teachers said that they had to leave at 2:10 in order to take the kids off the bus, and the ST had a previous engagement so she couldn't stay at the meeting for more than 10 minutes. I did not know that this was going to happen because last year's teachers were able to stay for as long as I needed them to be there. ... I had asked ds's teachers for a draft copy of the IEP so that I could review it before the meeting, but they didn't have anything available until the meeting itself. So, I basically told everyone that I couldn't review the entire IEP and discuss ds's goals during the 20 minutes that were allotted for the meeting. They responded that I only had to sign that I attended the meeting, and that they would officially send me a copy of it, since they only had one copy and they did not have the time to make another copy for me at that time. Now, I have to find out how much time I have to review the IEP (which I haven't received yet) before it automatically becomes final.

    If you are still reading this, you probably are wondering why I thought this was such a horrible meeting. It basically was how they treated me. My feeling was that they had no intention of making me a partner in the process. When I asked the ST a question about where some of the goals were in the IEP, she responded that I have to trust her that she has the best interest of my son in mind (without my even reviewing what goals she has for him for next year.). Here's another thing that bothered me. The PT, who could not attend the meeting, is recommending PT twice-a-week again for next year. I think this is excessive and disruptive of ds's schedule. Since I haven't had the chance to look at the IEP, I don't know what goals the PT has in mind. He left me a note that I can call him with questions, but if I haven't seen the IEP for next year, I don't what specific questions I can ask him.

    Here's another thing that bothers me. In a moment of weakness, I allowed ds's teachers to see us at home. They promised me that they would not look for things that are wrong. But, why would they come to our house if that wasn't their purpose. DS still sleeps in a toddler bed. Yes, he is 7-yrs-old, but we haven't found an arrangement that would work with a larger bed and his bed is not uncomfortable. Anyhow, his teachers keep asking me when I am going to replace the toddler bed. It really is not any of their business and I don't want to have to answer them on this. In some ways, I think they use this as a crutch to excuse their own problems.

    Here's the worst of it: Rumor has it that ds will have the same teachers next year. I'm trying to think of a tactful way to convey that I don't want this, but I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or to sound like a grouchy ungrateful parent.

    If you finished through this post, you are very patient. I just needed to vent. Once again, I know that ds has a lot of things going for him, and this is just a vent. Please no flames.


    -Carol-

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    um, i totally know how you feel about when they come to your house. They all want to do that here and we have let them come over several times. We figured out that they really do not have any good suggestions for us and it never helps - and we get that same feeling like they are looking for something wrong. Plus, they only can come 9-5 M-F so we just explain that we are busy. I totally know how you feel.

    Are you looking for a twin bed? I have seen them at used furniture stores if you are looking for an older less expensive one.

    Also, if your son is comfortable in the bed, why do they care?

    We have a nice pillow top fluffy twin bed with my little pony sheet sets and comforter and etc.... and our girl will not sleep in it...only with us. argh. So, you have the worst of it beat!

    -angi

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    • #3
      time for a Certified Letter

      Dear School District Special Ed Coordinator:

      I was very disappointed at the chaos surrounding my son's IEP on May 16, 2008. Since there wasn't a room available and staff was unable to stay for an appropriate meeting, no IEP was developed by the team. While Ms. Teacher offered to write the IEP herself, that is not the team approach that is called for in Federal Law. I am calling for the IEP team to reconvene to develop my son's IEP for the 2008-2009 school year. To assist in creating a cooperative environment, please ask each teacher and clinician to send me their reports and draft goals no later than 5 days prior to the meeting. Since we must hold his IEP meeting to determine the appropriate goals prior to determining the best placement for him, the meeting does need to be held with all due haste.

      I look forward to hearing from you with the date for the IEP meeting by May 29, 2008.

      Thank you,

      Chaya Jones

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      Send it today and SEND IT CERTIFIED-RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED

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      You're going to have to put their feet to the fire to get it done. Good luck.

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      • #4
        Amen!!!!!

        I agree with this.
        LM

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        • #5
          Definitely send certified letter. There are tons of form letters out there for just that purpose. I will say it varies state to state, but they can implement IEP even if you do not sign unless you again state in writing that you disagree with entire IEP or disagree with xyz.

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          • #6
            Carol, I'm so sorry your meeting went that way. THe worst part is it really makes you feel vulnerable, and unable to advocate on behalf of your child. I love Erin's response! Great advice!! Please let us know how it goes, OK?

            On the other hand, many congrats on the progress that HAS been made!

            Many hugs! Nancy

            PS We dumped our advocate last year, total waste of time and money. I really wanted someone to lean on while Leela was going thru her surgery. As you had suspected, they were totally in attentive to detail, too busy to pay attention - all talk no action. During our BOE review last year - the BOE actually whited out the PT sessions and changed them from 45 mins each to 30! Never verbalized it to anyone! THe advocate never bothered reading the paper work and so....luckily the school honored the 45 min commitment! This year they also put 45 min for the IEP, luckily!

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            • #7
              Erin - Thanks so much for drafting that letter!! You went far beyond the call of duty for a cyber-pal. I'm going to try to work things out with the teachers first (they finally sent me the IEP for review by June 2nd), but if I'm not successful I will consider sending the letter. I'll let you and the others know what I do. Thanks again!

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              • #8
                Hi Nancy - I'm sorry things didn't work with the advocate you chose. I think she eventually will start losing customers, because nobody I know is particularly happy with her office. She did give me some ideas about schools for ds for the future, so at least I benefitted a little from her. There most likely are some social service agencies who have people that are more interested in being emphatic (more of a shoulder to lean on than someone who can help with your IEP). Your City Councilman's office might be able to direct you to an appropriate one, if you think this might help.

                Regards,
                -Carol-

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                • #9
                  Hi Angi - yes, home visits are the pits. I've finally learned my lesson. I'll try to follow your advice and tell them that I am busy next time. I also dream about writing them a note (to the file) to tell them that ds's bed is fine, and that any further discussion of it constitutes harrassment. But, I don't know if I'll follow through with it.

                  Regards,
                  -Carol-

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                  • #10
                    I am not a parent of special needs children but am a teacher of an inclusion class. In NJ, we have to give the parents a copy of the draft IEP at the meeting. All reports are sent 10 days in advance of the meeting if any evaluations have taken place. Our case manager takes all notes on the copy and the parents take it home. A final IEP is sent later in the week after the revisions are made. We have had many parents not sign lately since there are many unfavorable changes being made in our district. I believe they have 15 days to sign but I am unsure what happens after the 15 days - I need to check our code on that.
                    I do agree that you were treated unfairly. The parents need to be the most important part of the team(in our district programs are being closed before we even have our annual reviews so the children aren't getting the necessary programs but this is another story). I would definitely send the letter. Make sure a copy goes to the case manager, supervisor of special ed and director of spec ed if it is a different person. I would also send a copy to the principal and superintendent since they are often not aware of what is going on.
                    I hope after the letter gets to the correct people that you are able to have a more productive meeting.
                    Also, is your ds in a self contained classroom or integrated into a regular classroom?
                    Good luck,
                    Kari

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                    • #11
                      I am really sorry it didn't go well. Totally unprofessional.

                      I would think it was none of their business what kind of bed you use!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Erin M
                        Dear School District Special Ed Coordinator:

                        I was very disappointed at the chaos surrounding my son's IEP on May 16, 2008. Since there wasn't a room available and staff was unable to stay for an appropriate meeting, no IEP was developed by the team. While Ms. Teacher offered to write the IEP herself, that is not the team approach that is called for in Federal Law. I am calling for the IEP team to reconvene to develop my son's IEP for the 2008-2009 school year. To assist in creating a cooperative environment, please ask each teacher and clinician to send me their reports and draft goals no later than 5 days prior to the meeting. Since we must hold his IEP meeting to determine the appropriate goals prior to determining the best placement for him, the meeting does need to be held with all due haste.

                        I look forward to hearing from you with the date for the IEP meeting by May 29, 2008.

                        Thank you,

                        Chaya Jones

                        ********************************

                        Send it today and SEND IT CERTIFIED-RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED

                        ********************************

                        You're going to have to put their feet to the fire to get it done. Good luck.
                        FANTASTIC letter!

                        Chaya,

                        (((hugs))) to you... that is CRAZY! Send the above letter, girl! And geesh, none of their business about his bed! (((hugs)))

                        Laura

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                        • #13
                          great letter

                          I hope you were able to get some resolution to this. They were dismissive becasue they were looking at the clock and not thinking about ds. You need another meeting scheduled and start over with everyone present and everyone having copies of the iep.

                          so sorry this happened. very poor planning.
                          karen

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